Comments on: The “Dream 9,” and the Use and Mis-use of Asylum https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/ Asylum and Its Discontents in the United States Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:05:08 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jason Dzubow https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-6009 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:05:08 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-6009 In reply to Susan Pai.

Here is a link to the blog:
http://Www.susanpaitwitter.wordpress.com
It is worth checking out.

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By: Susan Pai https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-6008 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 19:40:42 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-6008 jason, please take a look at my blog on this topic. Thanks. Susan

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By: Forget the Dream Act - Just Grant Them Asylum | The Asylumist https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-6006 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 17:41:38 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-6006 […] new tactic: Leaving the country and then returning to seek asylum. Not long ago, I wrote about the Dream 9, who presented themselves at the U.S./Mexico border and requested asylum. They were released and […]

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By: Jason Dzubow https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-5982 Mon, 07 Oct 2013 01:43:09 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-5982 In reply to Jay.

I did not say that the claims were laughable; I only expressed skepticism about how strong they are. I am not sure how you know what the basis for the asylum claims are, but if you are correct, those claims do not seem likely to succeed.

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By: Jay https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-5972 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 21:20:19 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-5972 Jason, thanks for pointing out the ‘mess at the border,’ as you put it. What some undocumented aliens have recently been able to accomplish is merely buy time by exploiting existing loopholes. There is no guarantee that they — or those inspired by them — will be able to achieve asylum in the country but in the meantime it appears that a lot more aliens might perceive this as a fast track to legalization. This will simply clog the system and deny a fair process to genuine candidates.

I agree with you that the claims made by the asylum seekers are laughable. Rocio Hernandez Perez is whining that she had to speak Spanish in Mexico. Others have complained that they feel threatened in Mexico because they had accents and one guy even said that he did not fit in Mexico because he walked/talked differently than the Mexicans.

My fear is that as more awareness is created about this, it might turn the public opinion against CIR.

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By: Jason Dzubow https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-5970 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 20:20:42 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-5970 In reply to Matthew L. Kolken.

Based on your comments, I am not exactly sure you read what I wrote in the article. My article does not blame the Dreamers for causing the mess at the border, but certainly something has changed given the large jump in the number of credible fear interviews (and based on the statistics available, the upsurge at the border is not related to cartel violence – see my next posting where I break down the statistics). As I said in the article, if I was their lawyer and if they had no other option, and if they had legitimate claims, I would file asylum for them too. That said, I certainly think that I or anyone else – including a certain DL -has every right to question what is happening at the border, especially since many asylum seekers are being seriously harmed by the mess down there.

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By: Matthew L. Kolken https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-5969 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:12:05 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-5969 I also suggest that you read former Board of Immigration Appeals member Lory Rosenberg’s article on the subject, as she is considered to be one of the most astute minds in all of immigration law.

She says:

“I strongly caution against anyone indulging in skepticism or cynicism in response to this week’s reports that the DREAM 9 satisfied the credible fear test. For that matter, restraint and neutrality is far preferable to the inappropriate and possibly biased comments reportedly made by at least one Immigration Judge, and this admonishment applies to anyone else tempted to opine on the merits of a case without knowing the details and before the case has been presented.”

See: http://blogs.ilw.com/blog.php?29229-Lory-Rosenberg-on-Appeal-Matters&tag=dream+9

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By: Matthew L. Kolken https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-5968 Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:07:39 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-5968 The delays are a product of a nationwide reassignment of Asylum Officers to the Southern Border due to an exponential increase in asylum requests stemming from fears of persecution resulting from drug cartel violence.

As you point out the delays predate the DREAM 9 action and your title inappropriately suggests impropriety in their requests for protection.

I strongly suggest an edit.

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By: The End of Asylum as We Know It? | The Asylumist https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-5743 Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:50:34 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-5743 […] time, I wrote about the Dream 9–nine Dream Act activists who were detained at the border when they tried to enter the U.S. […]

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By: Jason Dzubow https://www.asylumist.com/2013/08/13/the-dream-9-and-the-use-and-mis-use-of-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-5735 Thu, 15 Aug 2013 01:30:09 +0000 http://www.asylumist.com/?p=3286#comment-5735 In reply to Patti Lyman, Esq..

I appreciate your comment, and I am curious about where you are. In DC (Arlington, VA asylum office), our delays are much greater than you describe. I am actually planning to write about this next week, as I have some stats on credible fear interviews at the border. As far as I can see, the problem started before the Dream 9, but they have certainly brought attention to what is happening at the border.

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